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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:38 am 
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List here:-

http://io9.com/5551875/the-twenty-scien ... your-life/

More appropriately, "20 SF Novels the Writer Really Liked and Considers Important".

I've only read eight of them, and mostly the earlier stuff. Anyone do better?

And has an SF novel ever changed your life?

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I can do much worse - only four for me.

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Only three for me, but where the hell is Hyperion by Dan Simmons?

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Only 2 for me, though I've read other books by some of the authors.

My list would have to include Philip K Dick, JG Ballard and Ray Bradbury, and my Gibson pick would be Neuromancer. I'd probably go for Wells' The Island of Dr Moreau instead of The Time Machine. Hmmm, probably have to find space for Lem's Solaris in there too.

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Oh, forgot Flowers for Algernon. That would definitely be in with a shout too.

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I'd put in "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Heinlein, "Behold the Man" by Moorcock, "The Forever War" by Haldeman and "Dune" by Herbert, and yes, definitely need some Dick, Ballard and Bradbury, though which particular titles requires more thought.

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I was thinking, there's a difference between a book that's likely to be life-changing for other people, and one that was life-changing because of the circumstances in which you first encountered it. For example, Dr Bloodmoney was the first PK Dick novel I read, and it was a real eye-opener - and therefore 'life-changing' for me at the time (to the extent that a book's ever life-changing). However, if I were to pick a Dick novel to recommend, I'd probably go for another - Ubik, A Scanner Darkly, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep or Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said

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I read "Stranger in a Strange Land" during my hippie(ish) teens and loved what Heinlein was saying. Read it again during my more cynical late 20s/early 30s and wasn't anywhere near as impressed, though I have to concede that my second reading was informed by a much greater familiarity with Heinlein's oeuvre.

My first Dick was "Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said", but I didn't really get into him until I read the comparatively minor "Our Friends From Frolix 8". I was blown away by the mood and feel of "A Scanner Darkly" and the sheer audacity of "Valis".

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Frolix-8 is a real page-turner, but I don't think it leaves quite so much to think about as some of his other novels.

I never got round to Heinlein, because a friend lent me one of his books at uni and I really didn't get on with the politics, which seemed to be yelling from every page. Can't remember which book it was, but not one of his more famous ones. I suppose I ought to try Stranger some time.

Another curious omission from the list is Kurt Vonnegut - would've expected him in there somewhere. And John Wyndham, maybe?

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Yes, I agree about "Frolix 8" - great fun, but not life changing or an especially significant part of Dick's oeuvre.

"Stranger" is out of step with most of Heinlein's other books, though not so much so when you delve deeper. I find his writing and the philosophy behind it a curious mix of libertine thought with crass militarism and a survivalist outlook. It's only when you read "Stranger" again with the context of later books like "I Will Fear No Evil" and "Time Enough for Love" that you realise Heinlein banging the drum for free love is rather like a redneck lobbying for the hunting season to run all year long.

Agree with you about Vonnegut, and I'd say Gene Wolfe should be there, and I'd also plump for Delany, with either "Dhalgren" or "Stars in My Pocket, Like Grains of Sand". And Disch with either "334" or "Camp Concentration".

Keeping this down to twenty is going to be a problem.

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I've read six, possibly seven (I read a tonne of Lovecraft in a blur and may have read Mountains amongst that).

These lists are always a bit tedious though, given the propensity of people to immediately start whining about the 'exclusion' of their personal favourites (see Mike Resnick, first comment on that post).

Nb. I exempt from this criticism people who have their own opinions about what should be included, it's just the folks who apparently can't grasp the concept of subjectivity who get my goat. ;)

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Ooh I've read nine of those!

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I can only count 8 or 9 that I've read.

I'm surprised about Sarah Canary, I wouldn't have thought of that as Science fiction
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I've only read one. Anyone want to go for zero?

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That would be me..:cry:
I haven't read any of those, haven't even heard of most of them. :?


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