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Author:  Davey Stone [ Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Worth subscribing? NO, it isn't a straightforward question.

Okay, folks.....so I used to write review columns for Interzone when David Pringle ran it....and occasionally tried and failed to get in there with a story in my teens.

Is it worth me re-subscribing to the NEW TTA-edited IZ? Take the following facts into consideration:

* I have never read a single story in Interzone I actually liked (before everyone gets all offended, I stopped reading around #123).

* As far as SF goes, I only like Michael Marshall Smith, Iain M. Banks and the Grant/Naylor books.

NOW give me some opinions....

....oh, and thanks! :-)

Author:  Roy [ Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:38 pm ]
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You mean you didn't like Barrington Bayley's "A Crab Must Try" in IZ 103, Jan 96?

Author:  Davey Stone [ Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:45 pm ]
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To be honest, dude.....I thought a crab could've tried harder.

No - the actual statement I'm making is that, in the past, IZ stories have not been to my taste.....which (I'm increasingly coming to realize) is because I don't actually have any.

So the REAL question and heading should have been:

Should a person with no TASTE consider subscribing to Interzone?

That's it - that sounds spot on.

Author:  Roy [ Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:49 pm ]
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Obviously yes, if only in order to acquire taste.

Author:  Jim Steel [ Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:19 pm ]
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What about Michael Marshall Smith's Save As... in Interzone 115 or Iain M. Bank's A Gift From The Culture in Interzone 20?

Or the fabulous non-fiction and artwork?

Still nothing?

Get someone to buy you a gift subscription for your next birfday/crimbo, and that way everyone's happy. Especially us.

Author:  Blue Tyson [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:20 am ]
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I'd say if your interests are so limited as to like only 3 writers, ever, - only one of whom is capable of writing good short stories - then you'd be stupid to pay for a generalist magazine.

Wouldn't have missed anything reviewwise in your case, by the sounds of it. :)

Author:  Davey Stone [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:32 am ]
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Great gods you can say that again. I reviewed with such venom that I only stopped in the end because I thought I might actually be damned for my sins. :-)

Hmm....okay, I'll own up to a lot more than three writers - but, as far as I know, none of them have appeared in IZ. I love Mr Pratchett (my new series out with Hodder UK and Penguin US is dedicated to him) - and the likes of Christopher Moore, Stephen King, Joe Hill, John Connolly, Tom Sharpe, Christopher Brookmyre, Avram Davidson and Fritz Leiber. To name a few, but certainly not all...

The Marshall story was - I believe - published a few issues before I started reading the mag (and thus the Banks' story I missed by a long way).

All good points, though, and it's great to see the magazine's glorious fans rise up in defence of their publication! Rock ON! :-)

Author:  Blue Tyson [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:06 am ]
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Yeah, you're pretty avant-garde with the Red Dwarf, Terry Pratchett, and Stephen King, aintcha?

:D

Author:  Davey Stone [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:23 am ]
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Pfft! :-) LOL

But - come on - those three don't NEED to push any envelopes, do they? They have a formula, and one that has garnered them hundreds of thousands of readers - in two cases, millions.

I'm not knocking IZs amazing talent pool: I'm just saying that under the old editorship I never felt drawn in by characters and situations - ideas really don't do it for me in the same way - I'd rather read New Scientist for that.

My question really is - has IZ changed? Andy Cox IS a great editor -I loved Third Alternative and Black Static - the one issue I've read, to date - is breathtaking (see my other thread re: this).

So this really isn't an attack - it's a ponder! :-)

Author:  Andy [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:38 am ]
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Somebody recently said that I'd ruined Interzone, that I'd turned it into The Third Alternative with spaceships. He meant it as an insult, but in your case, Davey, please consider it a recommendation. :lol:

Author:  Blue Tyson [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:40 am ]
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I haven't read all the old ones like you have, only one or two issues - and quite a few more stories than that - but looking at the authors then, to now - I'd say I defiitely prefer this version.

So from that point of view, give it a shot.

Issues 213, 214 and 215 are my favorites, so far.

Author:  Davey Stone [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:42 am ]
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Andy wrote:
Somebody recently said that I'd ruined Interzone, that I'd turned it into The Third Alternative with spaceships. He meant it as an insult, but in your case, Davey, please consider it a recommendation. :lol:


THERE you are, old love! I was beginning to think the rumours were true - that you'd fallen into one of those giant printing presses at TTA and were literally IN the next issue of Interzone.

Author:  Blue Tyson [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:42 am ]
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Andy wrote:
Somebody recently said that I'd ruined Interzone, that I'd turned it into The Third Alternative with spaceships. He meant it as an insult, but in your case, Davey, please consider it a recommendation. :lol:


So is it the Third Alternative bit (with which I am unfamiliar) that is bad, or the spaceships are bad? (if the latter, that person is clearly delusional. :twisted: )

Author:  Tony [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:14 am ]
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Davey Stone wrote:
..I never felt drawn in by characters and situations - ideas really don't do it for me in the same way - I'd rather read New Scientist for that.


In that case, perhaps you're not reading stuff by the right kind of SF writers.
I can understand why some readers dislike Greg Egan's presentation of hard-SF ideas... but how can you not enjoy Rudy Rucker's or Bruce Sterling's fiction?

Author:  suzanne [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:01 pm ]
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I guess I'd say that if you love SF/F -- even if only within fairly narrow tastes -- one of the best ways to support the genre as a whole is to support short fiction, which is where a lot of new authors first start to find their feet. If you can find a magazine that prints stories you like (and magazines change over the years, sometimes dramatically, so you may have to do some extensive sampling of single issues to find the right one for you) subscribe to it. I can't tell you if that's Interzone or not, but I hope you do find something out there worth your time and attention.

-Suzanne

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